|
|
Post by sebbe67 on Apr 26, 2005 4:34:41 GMT
extinct subspecies of the Chestnut-bellied sandgrouse.
This subpecies were known from Nile valley between Faiyum and Luxor, it were already rare in the 1929, the last record of the bird is from between Isna and Idfu in Marsch 1979 when ten bird were sigthed here.
|
|
|
|
Post by sebbe67 on Apr 26, 2005 12:07:36 GMT
This bird isnt known from Europe, it were from Egypt.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2005 12:55:20 GMT
Hi !
Yeah I know, but northern Egypt belongs to the palaearctic region to which Europe belongs, so this species is mentioned in that book.
|
|
|
|
Post by sebbe67 on Oct 30, 2005 18:10:11 GMT
Hunting and habitat lost made this bird extinct.
|
|
|
|
Post by Melanie on Oct 31, 2005 21:29:42 GMT
The spelling P. e. floweri is also mentioned here cyrille.deliry.free.fr/dispw.htmHi ! According to my book 'Birds of Europe' the subspecies must be floweri not fowleri. It is not mentioned as extinct but it is clearly extinct now. This is P. e. floweri  This is the first picture that I have posted allone ! ;D Bye Alex |
|
|
|
Post by another specialist on Oct 31, 2005 21:36:43 GMT
common name is Egyptian Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse,
|
|
|
|
Post by another specialist on Oct 31, 2005 21:38:56 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by sebbe67 on May 13, 2006 9:18:50 GMT
Pterocles exustusfioweri Nicoll, 1921, type locality, El Faiyum, Egypt.
The only specimen of this race that I have seen is its type. This specimen,
a male, is less dark than olivascens, as stated by Nicoll, and differs from
nominate exustus by being darker and grayer on the head, back, and
breast. It is also more yellowish, less "warmly" colored on the upper
wing coverts and scapulars, than nominate exustus, being yellowish
ocher, rather than ochraceous buff as in nominate exustus. This description
of the type offloweri (and also the original description of this race
by Nicoll) does not correspond at all to the alleged specimen offioweri
illustrated in color by Meinertzhagen (1930, pl. 24). This plate depicts
an extremely dark male (virtually chocolate-brown on the back and
breast) which Meinertzhagen says was collected at El Faiyum on January
10, 1922. The bird shown may represent an extreme individual variant,
or an error is involved. At any rate, it is very different from the
type offloweri, and in fact I have not seen any specimen of this species
which approaches its coloration. The range of fioweri seems to be
restricted to the Nile Valley, from about Luxor, according to Meinertzhagen,
north to El Faiyum and the fringes of the Delta.
|
|
|
|
Post by dysmorodrepanis on May 13, 2006 15:10:18 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by sebbe67 on Jul 13, 2006 21:55:16 GMT
According to the book pheasants, partridges and grouse (which strangely includes the sandgrouse family)
There is no records of this subspecies since 1938, and is probably extinct.
|
|
|
|
Post by Carlos on Jul 14, 2006 15:51:44 GMT
A beautiful old painting of this form in the book: Johnnsgard (1991): Bustards, Hemipodes and Sandgrouse. Birds of dry places. |
|
|
|
Post by Sebbe on May 21, 2012 20:20:46 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Melanie on May 21, 2012 22:00:04 GMT
Great news.
|
|
|
|
Post by another specialist on May 22, 2012 5:10:36 GMT
How to find Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse in the Nile Valley, Egypt Austrian Leander Khil who was a part of a group rediscovering Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse in Egypt has sent the following to WestPalBirds: Following the rediscovery of the Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse (Pterocles exustus) in northern Egypt (presumably the thought to be extinct ssp. floweri) in March, I'm pleased to say that the team involved in the rediscovery has now agreed to make the location public. I hope you can understand that we were initially cautious about this topic and so didn't publish the exact site immediately. The worst case scenario (but probably and hopefully not), is that the max. 100 birds we have found represent all that's left of the Egyptian and Western Palearctic population of this species. The status of temporary secrecy wasn't accepted so well by everyone - some of the mails I received were quite unfriendly and demanding and not appreciative of our concerns. However, we are now sure that much more can and will be found out by other birdwatchers and ornithologists travelling through the central Nile Valley region - which is apparently extremely "underwatched". Any additional knowledge, as well as the fact that visiting birders come to see them and locals profit of that, could help protect the birds. We are appealing urgently to everyone going to search for/twitch the birds to: - be careful and do nothing that could pose a risk, danger or stress to the birds - respect the interests of the local people and landowners. The whole area is covered with fields and attempts at cultivation. Before entering an area, check if it is a cultivation (you might not recognize it at first sight). - tell locals about the uniqueness of the birds on their land - maybe it will aid future protection Generally, we only met very friendly people who will likely invite you for a tea at their house. However, the whole region is troubled: the Egyptian revolution is still going on and some issues (e.g. scarcity of fuel) have reached this rather remote and very non-touristic region too. This created some rather dangerous situations during our stay in March. Location: From the main road Giza-Luxor, a road leads to the town Sandafa to the east (at 28°31'30.07"N 30°35'55.10"E). The birds were seen on several occasions along the first 3 km, on the southern side (but we hardly ever checked the northern side). Habitat becomes much greener and less suitable towards the towns Al Bahnasa and Sandafa. The birds preferred arid and sandy flats with loose vegetation (check www.khil.net/blog/?p=1393 for pictures), frequently fields (abandoned and in use) and were flying around a lot, especially in the evening. Best regards, Leander PS: After the first sightings (18.3. 4 Ex.; 21.3. 25 Ex.; 22.3. ca.100 Ex.) the birds were seen not very often, but as far as I know, whenever someone of the team was looking for them. |
|
|
|
Post by another specialist on May 22, 2012 18:16:52 GMT
Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse in Egypt Edit: Much better photos by J. Geburzi from today, added to the gallery below. While working in Egypt with german colleagues, we (M. Boetzel, J. Geburzi, M. Trobitz, C. Weinrich, M. Werner, T. Zegula and me) made an exciting find in Minya Governorate, Egypt. When searching for Crowned Sandgrouse (Pterocles coronatus) on March 18, which has previously been seen in the area by M. Trobitz, we had a flyby-observation of four small, dark-bellied sandgrouse with elongated tail, which we couldn’t readily identify. When consulting literature back at home, it became clear that all features seen (long tail, sandy-brown wing with black primaries and secondaries, white trailing edge, no obvious contrast between dark underwing and dark belly, short, guttural calls ‘kwritt-kwritt-kwritt’) clearly pointed towards Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse (Pterocles exustus), a species thought to be extinct in Egypt and rarely recorded within the western palearctic. A quick research revealed that these birds should belong to the egyptian subspecies Pterocles exustus floweri (Nicoll 1921), which is listed as “extinct” by some sources 1 2. In the 20th century, the subspecies appeared to be “fairly numerous in Upper Egypt and the Faiyum” 3, the species was last recorded in Egypt in 1979 (I. Moldovan in litt.). We unsuccessfully tried to relocate the birds the same evening and in the following days. Due to work, we only had time to search in late afternoon/evening. It took some days until we could go back to the spot in early afternoon, the time of day when we first saw the birds in question. On March 21, we finally found ca. 25 Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse near the spot where we first saw the flying four. We got perfect views of some birds flying over our heads, sometimes as close as 30 m. If you haven’t experienced it yet: It’s a terrible feeling to find a major rarity, not being able to take proper photos. My whole photography equipment is still confiscated at Cairo airport, which is why I had to work with my Canon S90 compact camera. Have you ever tried to photograph elusive sandgrouse in flight, with a focal length of 105 mm, a terribly slow autofocus and a shutter lag of 0.5 s? I had to – it’s a nightmare. Under this circumstances, I’m quite happy with the few record shots, showing most of the important features. Additional field marks noted in the individuals seen at closer range (males?) were a fine, black band on the breast, white trailing-edge to black primaries, dark brown underwings, not contrasting to dark brown belly but contrasting to buffy-yellowish undertail, breast and head. The birds, mostly flying in small groups of up to seven individuals (max. ca. 25 in one flock), frequented cultivated and abandoned sandy fields in a varied, cultivated landscape with stony hills, sandy plains, water holes, areas with sand dunes, fields and gardens. www.khil.net/blog/?p=1393 |
|
|
|
Post by Melanie on May 22, 2012 22:54:27 GMT
Great to see finally photos of this bird.
|
|
|
|
Post by surroundx on Sept 20, 2012 9:39:41 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by surroundx on Sept 23, 2012 6:46:35 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Peter on Oct 17, 2013 10:39:32 GMT
Source: Khil, L., Boetzel, M., Geburzi, J., Trobitz, M., Werner, M. Weinrich, M. and Zegula, T. (2012). Rediscovery of Chestnut-bellied Sandgrouse in Egypt in March 2012. Dutch Birding 34: 213-218.
The rediscovery of this subspecies is not yet for 100% certain. Verification of birds in the hand is needed. But most likely when this happens, it will be confirmed. Anyone some new information?
|
|
|
|
Post by argentavis on Dec 15, 2013 16:03:27 GMT
|
|
