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Post by Melanie on Oct 4, 2007 21:55:39 GMT
The group for the Sloths is created now. I think an own group for the elephants would be too small.
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Post by sordes on Oct 5, 2007 9:30:13 GMT
Perhaps you should also add Doedicurus and Eutatus, because they were also Pilosa and relatives of the sloths. I think the elephants should still get an own subforum. Untill now there are 8 threads about them, only a little bit lesser than those of the sloths, and perhaps others will follow. Given the fact that they were at least very distantly related, there could be a subforum for elephants and sirens.
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Post by Melanie on Oct 5, 2007 11:04:43 GMT
Ok, the group Other Extinct Mammals is now renamed into Extinct Elephants and Sirens, Anteaters, Armadillos and Aardvarks are included into the Sloth group and the two whales are now included into the Hoofed Animals as whales are distant relatives of Hoofed animals, like hippos.
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Post by another specialist on Oct 5, 2007 11:14:03 GMT
Great work Melanie to see it taking shape.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2007 11:48:19 GMT
Aardvarks belong to the Afrotheria, so should be placed with the Elephants, Sirens and Hyraxes.
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Post by Melanie on Oct 5, 2007 12:02:31 GMT
Yes, you are right. But if you take the taxonomy from the past the aardvarks belong to the Edentata group which also include anteaters and armadillos.
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Post by Melanie on Oct 5, 2007 12:34:38 GMT
The Reptiles group has now four subboards:
Extinct lizards (including monitors, iguanas, gekkos, skinks, tuataras etc.) Extinct snakes Extinct tortoises (including turtles) Extinct crocodiles
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Post by sordes on Oct 5, 2007 15:57:33 GMT
Thank you very much Melanie, this new subforums are really good. Are there still any other animals left? I don´t think so. But I think there should be also some other subforums in the birds-main-forum. And perhaps also a seperation in amphibians for newts and salamanders, and a subforum for toads and frogs.
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Post by sebbe67 on Oct 5, 2007 22:38:04 GMT
Split the amphibians threat in Frogs/toads and Salamanders would be good.
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Post by Melanie on Oct 5, 2007 23:22:29 GMT
Well, according to the Bird category i would like to suggest to create only one new subforum: Chicken-like-birds (including Chickens, Quails, Pheasants, and Megapodes).
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Post by Melanie on Oct 5, 2007 23:24:45 GMT
Well, i had similar thoughts, one subforum for the frogs, one for the toads, and one for the salamanders and newts. Split the amphibians threat in Frogs/toads and Salamanders would be good.
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Post by another specialist on Oct 6, 2007 10:11:53 GMT
Frogs and toads as one and one for newts and salamanders would be great
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Post by Carlos on Oct 6, 2007 11:09:32 GMT
Well, according to the Bird category i would like to suggest to create only one new subforum: Chicken-like-birds (including Chickens, Quails, Pheasants, and Megapodes). Obviously needed but not enough to give clarity to some of the remaining groups, from my point of view (the point of view of an ornithologist, so perhaps biased). Please, Melanie, consider studying my suggestions in replies 5 and 8. If you like I can suggest names and contents of the possible new sub-boards and submit them to the moderators
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Post by Peter on Oct 6, 2007 11:14:33 GMT
Suggestions are always very welcome Carlos! I will look into your replies 5 and 8 today.
I've just created two amphibian subboards. One for 'Frogs and Toads' and one for 'Salamanders and Newts'.
As for the distinction on frogs and toads: A distinction is often made between frogs and toads on the basis of their appearance, caused by the convergent adaptation among so-called toads to dry environments; however, this distinction has no taxonomic basis. The only family exclusively given the common name "toad" is Bufonidae, but many species from other families are also called "toads," and the species within the toad genus Atelopus are referred to as "harlequin frogs." (Source: Wikipedia)
As there is no taxonomic basis for the distinction of frogs and toads I've decided to place them both in one subboard.
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Post by Peter on Oct 6, 2007 11:40:08 GMT
Carlos (and the others) is this what you suggest? - Wildfowl, Grebes and Flamingos
- Seabirds
- Waders, Gulls, Terns and allies
- Hummingbirds and Swifts
- Kingfishers and allies
- Coots, Cranes and Rails
- Doves, Pigeons and Dodos
- Perching Birds
- Parrots
- Birds of Prey and Owls
- Ratites
- Fowl (Galliformes)
- Storks and allies (Ciconiiformes)
- Other Recently Extinct Birds
Anyone who has other thoughts, please post such a list suggestion, for a better overall view. Peter
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Post by Melanie on Oct 6, 2007 13:05:52 GMT
Well, this suggestion looks very good, i would like to suggest to put the Waders, Gulls, Terns and Seabirds in one group.
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Post by Peter on Oct 6, 2007 13:35:43 GMT
A good idea in my opinion!
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Post by another specialist on Oct 6, 2007 16:45:44 GMT
Suggestions are always very welcome Carlos! I will look into your replies 5 and 8 today. I've just created two amphibian subboards. One for 'Frogs and Toads' and one for 'Salamanders and Newts'. As for the distinction on frogs and toads: A distinction is often made between frogs and toads on the basis of their appearance, caused by the convergent adaptation among so-called toads to dry environments; however, this distinction has no taxonomic basis. The only family exclusively given the common name "toad" is Bufonidae, but many species from other families are also called "toads," and the species within the toad genus Atelopus are referred to as "harlequin frogs." (Source: Wikipedia) As there is no taxonomic basis for the distinction of frogs and toads I've decided to place them both in one subboard. Just finished sorting the rest of the amphibians threads that yourselves Melanie and Peter started. So thats all done. Also it may be worth adding caecilian worms to salamanders and newts category title?
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Post by sordes on Oct 6, 2007 16:58:18 GMT
As there are only a handful extinct caecilians this would make sense I think.
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Post by Peter on Oct 6, 2007 17:15:43 GMT
I agree! Thanks.
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