peej
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Post by peej on Apr 10, 2005 14:09:07 GMT
Is there anyone that has images of the javan tiger in the budapest zoo in hungary?Or any photos of some of the museum specimens..like skins and mounted specimens?
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Post by Melanie on Apr 10, 2005 14:35:10 GMT
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Post by Peter on Apr 10, 2005 16:10:30 GMT
I've seen a mounted specimen myself in the Leiden National Museum of Natural History Naturalis in the Netherlands. Look for yourself at: www.naturalis.nl/300pearls/. A website which opens up for the general public the scientific collections of three European natural history museums. It presents highlights of the 50 million+ collections of the Hungarian Natural History Museum (Budapest, Hungary); the Royal Belgian Institute of Natural Sciences (Brussels, Belgium); the National Museum of Natural History Naturalis (Leiden, The Netherlands). Click here to see image!Javan Tiger. Click here to see image!Javan Tiger. Photograph by Rosamond Purcell from Swift as a Shadow. © 1999.
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Post by sebbe67 on Apr 11, 2005 19:15:51 GMT
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Apr 12, 2005 8:28:39 GMT
Could the javan tiger survived? In the last years gived it some accounts of footmarks and triages.
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Post by Melanie on Apr 12, 2005 9:18:42 GMT
Hi, i don't think that the Javan Tiger have survived. It has lived in a restricted area. Only 5 Tigers where count in the 60s and due to the habitat destruction (especially deforestation) and the population grown there is no chance.
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Post by Peter on Apr 12, 2005 11:37:16 GMT
I don't think they survived either, as tigers need a large habitat with prey. And Java is densely populated, which much habitat destruction as far as I know.
Text from 300 pearls: In the early 19th century, tigers were common all over Java. As the human population increased, large parts of the island were cultivated. Wherever man moved in, tigers were ruthlessly hunted down or poisoned. By 1940, tigers had become restricted to remote mountain ranges and forests. The establishment of nature reserves could not save the species: tigers need a large area with a rich food supply. The reserves were too small and too far apart, and therefore could not maintain tiger populations. During the 1960's, the tiger even disappeared from the famous Ujung Kulon reserve on the western tip of Java. The last stronghold of the Javan tiger was a rugged area in south-eastern Java, known as Meru-Betiri, which had become a game reserve in 1972. However, the area was already encroached by cultivation and the tiger's fate was sealed. A track count revealed that in 1979 at most three tigers were still living there. The Javan tiger has not been seen or tracked since and must have become extinct in the early eighties. Recent rumours about its survival are not substantiated.
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Post by another specialist on May 20, 2005 12:22:14 GMT
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Post by another specialist on May 20, 2005 12:32:09 GMT
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lenny
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Post by lenny on May 29, 2005 20:29:49 GMT
Iam are acctually one of the lucky ones which has have to the oppirtunity to work with Javan tigers in the wild, I was working on Java from 1955-1968 and I must say that it are the best time are one of the best times in my whole life, to see this cats in its natural enviroment are something really speciall, and something that if probably will valuable for the rest om my life, even more when this magnificent cat are extinct. I was working with a speciall group, which was established in the 1953 when the population on Java started to decline , we was supposed to monitore the population and protect them agains pocahers and habitat lost, something that we seems to have failed with.
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Post by sebbe67 on May 29, 2005 20:52:20 GMT
that couldent have been a easy jobb, I mean the population wasent large, little suitble habitat remained and if I have read right the poaching was huge on this subspecies already in the 1930. But you are a lucky one which had the oppurtinyt to see this beutiful animal before it saidly disaperer , I havent any numbers how many that exsited in the 1950, 1960 and so on, I think that you which worked during that time knows some figure?
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Post by Peter on May 30, 2005 9:28:39 GMT
Anything you could tell us more, would be very interesting! All I know is this (Source: www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/javan.html): Javan tiger reserves: By 1940 the Javan tiger had been pushed into remote mountain ranges and forests. At this stage some small reserves were set up, but these were not large enough and prey species were too low. Come the mid-1950s only 20-25 tigers remained on Java. Half of these were in the well-known Ujong Kulon Wildlife Reserve, but the 1960s saw all tigers eliminated from this area and also from Baluran National Park. 1972 and the Javan tiger count was down to a maximum of seven in the then newly-formed Meru Betiri Forest Reserve, and perhaps five elsewhere. A track count revealed that in 1979 at most three Javan tigers where still living there. That was the last we saw of them! As far as I know.
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Post by another specialist on May 30, 2005 10:26:17 GMT
The more info we have the better lenny
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Post by another specialist on May 31, 2005 20:04:59 GMT
Tigers were eliminated from most of Java by the 1940s, and were restricted to Meru Betiri II by 1970. Tigers were last observed in Meru Betiri in 1976 (Seidensticker 1986).
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Post by another specialist on Aug 5, 2005 8:04:44 GMT
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Post by sebbe67 on Jan 22, 2006 15:25:07 GMT
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Post by another specialist on Jan 23, 2006 11:48:37 GMT
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Post by another specialist on Jan 23, 2006 11:52:02 GMT
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peej2
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Post by peej2 on Mar 9, 2006 15:10:57 GMT
I had, at one point, found an image on the net. It was of a tiger being lifted on to a ship in a cage. The caption said that it was a tiger from Java being transported on a ship. I don't know if it could be a javan tiger, but if anyone has that image or finds it that would help ease my brain a little.
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Post by another specialist on Mar 9, 2006 19:36:17 GMT
I had, at one point, found an image on the net. It was of a tiger being lifted on to a ship in a cage. The caption said that it was a tiger from Java being transported on a ship. I don't know if it could be a javan tiger, but if anyone has that image or finds it that would help ease my brain a little. I would love to see this myself - will keep an eye out for it.
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