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Post by Bhagatà on Aug 1, 2010 16:23:28 GMT
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sburd
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Post by sburd on Mar 13, 2011 20:40:34 GMT
The Javan tiger was declared extinct in the early 1980s due to human population increase. Their habitat (forests) were converted for agricultural use. But don't forget about hunters. The tigers were hunted and poisoned for their parts were valuable.
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Post by peej on Mar 19, 2011 22:42:16 GMT
on the tigerforum.de website there is two images of javan tigers taken in the wild by hoogerwerf, one is the popular image shown many times but this one of the tiger drinking water is new to me, just wondering if it is an actual javan tiger or not thanx
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Post by miki2502989 on Mar 19, 2011 22:52:31 GMT
so is it a javan tiger or not?
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Post by Peter on Mar 20, 2011 11:09:26 GMT
on the tigerforum.de website there is two images of javan tigers taken in the wild by hoogerwerf, one is the popular image shown many times but this one of the tiger drinking water is new to me, just wondering if it is an actual javan tiger or not thanx I've just ordered A. Hoogerwerf's book Uit het leven van den gevreesden "gestreepte" published by the Nederlandsch-Indische Vereeniging tot Natuurbescherming, Buitenzorg, 1938. It is the source of the image of the drinking tiger. Now lets hope I will receive it (ordered at a small online bookshop from Amsterdam). As it was published and photographed during the time Indonesia was still a Dutch colony, it could be truly a Javan Tiger. By the way, 'Nederlandsch-Indische Vereeniging tot Natuurbescherming' mean in English: "Dutch East Indian Society of Nature Conservation". And in that time the name of the Indonesian city of Boger was 'Buitenzorg', which is located on Java. Uit het leven van den gevreesden "gestreepte" means From the life of the feared "striped one". |
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Post by surroundx on Mar 20, 2011 11:55:19 GMT
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Post by Peter on Mar 20, 2011 12:48:29 GMT
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Post by peej on Mar 20, 2011 15:13:19 GMT
thanx can't wait to find out if it actually is a javan tiger
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Post by peej on Mar 20, 2011 19:04:54 GMT
also on the tigerforum.de there are also two black and white photographs of mounted specimens of the javan tiger in museums, can anyone tell me which museum these specimens are in, when they were collected, etc. I have seen two other mounted specimens of the javan tiger but i havent seen these two pictures, unless they are from a different angle..i am not sure
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Post by Peter on Mar 23, 2011 20:42:40 GMT
thanx can't wait to find out if it actually is a javan tiger I've received the offprint Uit het leven van den gevreesden "gestreepte" by A. Hoogerwerf. Both photographs are one and the same Javan Tiger. A. Hoogerwerf encountered this tiger in Ujung Kulon (Java, Indonesia) on 28 October 1938 around 12:00 p.m. The outprint also contains a photograph of teeth taken from remains of a dead old Javan Tiger he found. I will later this week scan the outprint, and in the near future I will translate it. By the way, the pictures we are discussing here can be found at: tigerforum.de/thread.php4?threadid=2945&boardid=6&styleid=1&sid=f22c90d42aa9c137667e840da9f98531. |
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Post by peej on Mar 24, 2011 0:16:57 GMT
i wonder why only one of the photos was so popular? any photograph of an extinct animal is a rarity and extremely interesting even it is the same individual animal. also and extremely interesting book i have read is "frontiers of fear tigers and people in the Malay world" by peter boomgard. it has lot's of interesting info on the javan tiger and bali tiger. an interesting read if i say so myself
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Post by Peter on Mar 24, 2011 17:36:38 GMT
I'm not sure, as I've not read it myself yet (only the Google Books version without images and not all pages), but maybe only the popular well-known image has been published in one of A. Hoogerwerf's later books: Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros (1970). This book (in English) is mostly used as reference for that photo. The offprint with both photographs is from 1938 and not widely known (probably because it is written in Dutch).
Could not resist buying 'Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros', as well. Again...will be continued.
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Post by Peter on Apr 2, 2011 11:30:55 GMT
For the ones that would like to read Andries Hoogerwerf's outprint and Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) of his book: - The offprint Uit het leven van den gevreesden "gestreepte" by A. Hoogerwerf (1939): PDF (2,66 MB) / DjVu (455 kB).
- Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) from the book Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros by A. Hoogerwerf (1970): PDF (36,9 MB) / DjVu (1,68 MB).
The greatest resource of information on the Javan Tiger!!! |
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Post by Peter on Apr 2, 2011 11:39:26 GMT
I'm not sure, as I've not read it myself yet (only the Google Books version without images and not all pages), but maybe only the popular well-known image has been published in one of A. Hoogerwerf's later books: Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros (1970). This book (in English) is mostly used as reference for that photo. The offprint with both photographs is from 1938 and not widely known (probably because it is written in Dutch). Could not resist buying 'Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros', as well. Again...will be continued. Both images are also published in the 1970 book. The book has also images of bones, killed prey, footprints, claw marks and feces. Don't know why only the walking Javan tiger photo is well known and not the one drinking in the river. Maybe the 'famous' one is a better one as it shows the whole animal in a good view...   |
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Post by Peter on Apr 2, 2011 14:39:54 GMT
For the ones that would like to read Andries Hoogerwerf's outprint and Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) of his book: - The offprint Uit het leven van den gevreesden "gestreepte" by A. Hoogerwerf (1939): PDF (2,66 MB) / DjVu (455 kB).
- Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) from the book Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros by A. Hoogerwerf (1970): PDF (36,9 MB) / DjVu (1,68 MB).
The greatest resource of information on the Javan Tiger!!! The links didn't work correctly, but now you should be able to download them. If not, just contact me and I will send it to you. |
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Post by Melanie on Apr 2, 2011 17:52:21 GMT
For the ones that would like to read Andries Hoogerwerf's outprint and Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) of his book: - The offprint Uit het leven van den gevreesden "gestreepte" by A. Hoogerwerf (1939): PDF (2,66 MB) / DjVu (455 kB).
- Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) from the book Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros by A. Hoogerwerf (1970): PDF (36,9 MB) / DjVu (1,68 MB).
The greatest resource of information on the Javan Tiger!!! Wow, awesome material. Thanks for sharing that with us. |
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Post by peej on Apr 3, 2011 3:25:43 GMT
cool stuff...i wasn't able to see Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) from the book Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros by A. Hoogerwerf (1970): PDF (36,9 MB) / DjVu (1,68 MB). for some reason i wasn't able to download it
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Post by Melanie on Apr 3, 2011 13:09:09 GMT
cool stuff...i wasn't able to see Part 4 (The Javan Tiger) from the book Udjung Kulon - The land of the last javan rhinoceros by A. Hoogerwerf (1970): PDF (36,9 MB) / DjVu (1,68 MB). for some reason i wasn't able to download it You need an account at Google. |
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Post by Melanie on Jun 3, 2012 18:57:28 GMT
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Post by Peter on Jun 9, 2012 8:47:35 GMT
If true, this is new to me:
Does anyone have more information about this?
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