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Post by another specialist on Jan 26, 2007 19:59:57 GMT
A joint job then you and your computer.
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Post by Peter on Jan 31, 2007 15:51:33 GMT
I know you take contributions, if you think the image would add something to the main Quagga page on the website you are more than welcome to use it, Just drop me a pm. I can provide it up to a maximum size of A3. Hi Jon, welcome to the forum! Indeed a wonderfull image and thank you for your offer to use it on the main Quagga page on the website (I'll keep it in mind). I also saw the image of the Bubal Hartebeest and I'm looking forward in seeing more... ;D Peter
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Post by another specialist on Feb 6, 2007 17:40:22 GMT
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Post by Carlos on Feb 6, 2007 17:47:06 GMT
Is this the quagga foal preserved in South Africa?
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Post by another specialist on Feb 6, 2007 17:52:59 GMT
Is this the quagga foal preserved in South Africa? Not sure no description was with image.
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Post by another specialist on Feb 6, 2007 17:54:03 GMT
They had a section of extinct and endangered animals, including the sadly destroyed quagga, Paul's favourite extinct animal. He was excited and sad in equal measure to see a real one at last! flickr.com/photos/bitospud/43002133/
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Post by Carlos on Feb 6, 2007 22:00:12 GMT
Is this the quagga foal preserved in South Africa? Not sure no description was with image. I've checked the photo collection posted by that person (saxbiker) and all of them have been taken around CapeTown, so it must be the one remounted by the late Reinhold Rau, the starter of the Quagga Project. Besides, if I remember well, i think that this is the only quagga foal that has been preserved.
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Post by another specialist on Feb 6, 2007 22:23:02 GMT
Thanks Carlos for the update above.
What about the one in the Tring Museum i can remember seeing one there when i was a child but my memory can't remember if it was a true quagga or a hybrid/crossbred foal?
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Post by sebbe67 on Feb 7, 2007 17:40:25 GMT
Not sure no description was with image. I've checked the photo collection posted by that person (saxbiker) and all of them have been taken around CapeTown, so it must be the one remounted by the late Reinhold Rau, the starter of the Quagga Project. Besides, if I remember well, i think that this is the only quagga foal that has been preserved. I think there is a few more preserved foals around the world, I saw one in terrible condition in the Natural history museum of Sweden a few years ago
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Post by another specialist on Feb 7, 2007 21:57:37 GMT
i agree with you sebbe67 as I've seen a few myself.
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Post by Peter on Feb 10, 2007 15:41:24 GMT
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Post by Peter on Feb 10, 2007 15:46:17 GMT
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Post by Peter on Feb 10, 2007 15:51:37 GMT
I've checked the photo collection posted by that person (saxbiker) and all of them have been taken around CapeTown, so it must be the one remounted by the late Reinhold Rau, the starter of the Quagga Project. Besides, if I remember well, i think that this is the only quagga foal that has been preserved. I think there is a few more preserved foals around the world, I saw one in terrible condition in the Natural history museum of Sweden a few years ago Well, the Stockholm specimen is a foetus! Another foetus is in Mainz. The only true foal is the one in Cape Town. Source: media1.mweb.co.za/quaggaproject/stockhol.htm.
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Post by another specialist on Feb 10, 2007 19:40:37 GMT
A foal can be found here also Mainz Quagga foal Catalogue number : 1955/14 Sex: foal Locality: Date of acquisition: 1840-50 (Hilzheimer 1912) History of mount: original mount Measurements: head from upper lip to between ears, straight 0,245 m tail 0,190 m hindfoot 0,285 m height at rump 0,630 m State of preservation: fair, partly destroyed by fire Further material of same individual: skull inside mount (occipital burnt) References: Hilzheimer (1912); Schwartz (1912); Antonius (1931) media1.mweb.co.za/quaggaproject/mainz3.htm
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Post by another specialist on Feb 10, 2007 19:45:10 GMT
Thanks Carlos for the update above. What about the one in the Tring Museum i can remember seeing one there when i was a child but my memory can't remember if it was a true quagga or a hybrid/crossbred foal? It's a hybrid Author: Sarah Hartwell (Messybeast.com). Own work. Quagga specimen (with zebra-horse hybrid foal in same case) on display at Rothschild Zoological Museum, Tring, England. www.answers.com/topic/quagga-tring-jpg
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Post by Carlos on Feb 11, 2007 10:52:06 GMT
So, all in all, only two foals have been preserved, at Cape Town and at Mainz (plus a couple of badly preserved foetus). The Mainz specimen is partially burned, so the only well preserved is the one in Cape Town (skin remounted and skull and leg bones removed from the original mounting). A very sad wreckage!!!
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Post by another specialist on Feb 11, 2007 18:46:34 GMT
It is pretty sad I agree with you Carlos
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Post by Melanie on Apr 3, 2007 20:31:14 GMT
All these pictures appears also in the book London Zoo from Old Photographs by John Edwards (1996). Images on Arkive (http://www.arkive.org): A poster about quagga: Equus quagga quagga Boddaert, 1785 (Mammalia - Equidae) InformationsStatusClassified as Extinct (EX) by the IUCN Red List 2002 (1). DescriptionThe quagga roamed the plains of South Africa until the late 19th Century when it became extinct. There is some debate as to whether the quagga represented a separate species of zebra or merely a subspecies of the plains zebra (Equus burchelli), which survives today (1). However Quaggas, with their dark stripes on the head and neck merging into brown coloured hindquarters (2) and pale legs devoid of stripes (3), looked quite distinctive compared to the zebras that we recognise today (2). As with other zebra species, the patterns of the stripes were unique to each individual (2). RangeQuaggas were found in the Karoo and southern Free State of South Africa, the date of the disappearance of the last wild animal is unknown but the final quagga died at the Artis Magistra Zoo in Amsterdam in 1883. HabitatPreviously found in the arid and temperate grasslands of South Africa. BiologyIn common with the plains zebra it is likely that quaggas were found in groups, known as harems, consisting of a number of adult females and led by a dominant male (2). Both males and females leave their natal group when they reach sexual maturity; the composition of adult harems is relatively stable over time with strong social bonds between individuals (4). Foals were born year-round although there appeared to be a peak season in early summer, from December to January (2). As with other equid species, the quagga diet consisted primarily of grasses. Herds tended to migrate to longer grass pastures during the day to feed, returning to areas of shorter grass at night where potential predators had less cover (2). ThreatsSouth Africa became renowned for hunting in the 19th Century, and was known as a 'hunters paradise' (3). Many species, including the quagga, were persecuted for sport and to supply the leather trade with unusual hides (3). In addition, on the sparse, dry grasslands of the Karoo, farmers regarded the quagga as a serious competitor for grazing land with introduced sheep and cattle. During this time, the term 'quagga' in Afrikaans was used for all zebras, and this produced confusion; the uniqueness of this particular zebra was not fully recognised until it was too late (3). ConservationA controversial plan to 'retrieve' the quagga is now being carried out in South Africa by the Quagga Project (3). In 1984, evidence was published from the analysis of mitochondrial DNA (preserved on a museum specimen), which suggested that the extinct 'quagga' was in fact a subspecies of the plains zebra (Equus burchelli), rather than a distinct species (3). This added fresh hope to the idea that selective breeding of particular plains zebras would lead eventually to an animal resembling the long-lost quagga in appearance. Under the leadership of Reinhold Rau, the project began in earnest in 1987; the second generation of foals have now been successfully reared and some of these do have unusual coat patterns. Some authorities criticize the project for appearing to demonstrate that it is possible to bring a species back from extinction. However, proponents believe that a high profile project, which involves the return of these zebras to the grasslands where quaggas once roamed, may help to raise awareness of the importance of the fragile Karoo grassland of Southern Africa . Source:www.arkive.org/species/GES/mammals/Equus_quagga/more_info.html
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Post by another specialist on Apr 3, 2007 20:55:06 GMT
Is there any others or just the above?
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Post by Melanie on Apr 3, 2007 21:00:19 GMT
There are only 5 photographs of the living London Quagga. Above you can see 3.
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