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Post by another specialist on Dec 30, 2005 8:46:09 GMT
thanks for update Melanie
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Post by Meakia'i on Jan 5, 2006 8:02:46 GMT
Hi ! They raelly have to do something and they have to do it now. We know that it is possible to save such rare species, it was no larger problem on so many islands of New Zealand - people there just did it, You know what I mean ? They where not talking around for years and years, they have just eradicated cats and rats etc. Raoul Island has been 'cleaned' from goats, cats, rats and all alien-plants, it would be possible do save the last living jewels of the Hawaiian Islands. I hope that sometime the extinction - especially there - will be stopped. "Hi ! I 'd like to say something about the Hawaii-Birds. It's not only a dark day for Po'o-uli, but for every bird-lover. I think many more species will die out there, because the Americans do care for the hawaiian Islands only as a military-base and a hollyday-place. Nature dosn't matter to them. No money for that. People allways talk about the wonderfull nature of Galapagos and how much animals and plants and such ... But the hawaiian islands have as much as 90 % endemic species, more than any other place on this planet ! Why does no one know that ? Bye Alex" Amen my brother. Amen. I wish the people in our governments thought like you. Other than a lack of funds, a lack of caring, and the crushing rule of capitalism, Hawaii also has another disadvantage that prevents success as in NZ. It would be nearly impossible to wipe out alien species. We have no small offshore islands to do so on, like they do. And the large main ones are just too huge and way too populated to ever reverse what has been done. The only way Hawaiian birds can survive is through careful, strict guarding of remaining habitat. They are dying because humans interfered with the ecosystem, and now they won't ever survive without our care. It's ironic. |
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Post by Meakia'i on Jan 5, 2006 8:04:04 GMT
I hope not. At the last survey there were 500 individuals in the wild and 10 in captivity. But do the cat problem the existence of this species is critically imperiled. So a new survey is urgently necessesary, What happens next - will the Maui Parrotbill be the next bird to be extinct on Maui ? My guess is that it will be the Nukupu'u or Bishop's 'O'o, if neither of those is already extinct, there can't be more than a handful around. If not one of those... maybe the Akepa of that island. |
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Post by buddyrus on Jan 5, 2006 18:46:52 GMT
I think it's risky to make such a sweeping generalization by saying that all Americans only care about the Hawai'ian archipelago as an air base. Personally, I believe that Hawai'i was far better off as it's own nation, but I'm not a government agent and only time will determine if Hawai'ians will fully reclaim their homeland. There are other prroblems concerning Hawai'ian native species that are culturally sensitive issues, such as the feral pig problem. The Polynesian ancestors of modern native Hawai'ians brought these animals to the island chain as a source of food. I'm lead to believe they've pretty much gone everywhere now and cause A LOT of damage to the environment, particularly their rooting behavior, which opens up mosquito breeding areas by allowing water to pool. THIS mosquito species (Culex quinquefasciatus), alone, determines the range of Hawai'is native birds. Even though there is some (albeit degraded, perhaps) suitable habitat at lower elevations for some species, they simply can't co-exist with avian disease-carrying mosquitos. Almost everywhere in the archipelago the native birds are confined to higher elevations...with few of even the hardiest species being able to tolerate mosquito-infested areas. The idea of invasive species control is difficult, because one has to take into consideration the cultural importance of, for instance, boar-hunting, to the Hawai'ians. It would be completely insensitive and wrong to just eradicate this species. New Zealanders have had similar problems with trying to reintroduce species that are predated by the kiore (Polynesian rat), though now the brown and black rats (the latter being quite arboreal) are bigger threats, not to mention the stoat problem.
I guess what I'm truying to say is that the problem is complex, but someone needs to do something quickly or else this beautiful island chain is going to lose nearly all it's native avian species...
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Post by ivorybilllover on Jan 8, 2006 0:33:02 GMT
No..no...it is too sad. I know that extinctions have happened almost since the dawn of time, but there's a big difference between most extinctions in recent times and the extinctions of the much older world. Humans. Humans have been helping, if the word help can be used in that way, species become extinct faster and faster. Many species have died out because they 'deserved' it, in a sense, and it was natural, and they couldn't adapt. But with the onslaught of humans, that changed. Birds were shot for sport. Shot for specimens...and decorations. Deer have been hunted for sport, killed so their dead heads can hang on walls. And then there is the pollution issue...and countless more reasons for the extinction of animals. Some of it is neccesary, like clearing land for homes or farming, because the population surge requires it. But others are not. I saw a stand of trees near water near my home being torn down. The owner of the lot and manager of the construction did not want to wait to build a......strip mall. They showed the eggs of snowy egrets laying crushed on the ground, yes, you heard me. Crushed. Killed. There was even an adult that they showed, lifeless. But this is not what the thread is about so I'll shut up  |
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Post by david on Jan 14, 2006 12:34:19 GMT
It is true that humans are causeing many extinctions, I also think humans have disrubted the subspecies and populations of life all over the world, we have animals 'naturally' moving into new territory and people don't relise the species or subspecies are really taking advantage of something humans have done to the environment. Sometimes it is hard to see the link but it is there. Our world is nothing but cause and effect. I fear that humans have started a cycle that will not have a pretty ending.
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Post by Melanie on Dec 15, 2006 3:09:11 GMT
Kirsty Swinnerton has provided the following update:
"Since January 2006, the Maui Forest Bird Recovery Project has had almost constant field presence in Po’ouli Home Range #3 (HR3), but no further sightings of this bird were made (last seen December 2003). Searches for the HR1 Po’ouli (together with Maui Parrotbill) were conducted in April, May and August 2006, but no further sightings were made (last seen February 2004). It is increasingly less likely that these two birds are still alive owing to their increasing age; they would both now be at least 10 years old. Between January and May 2006, MFBRP also had constant field presence at the Frisbee Meadows study site, close to where the Po’ouli was originally discovered in 1973, but no Po’ouli were found. Between March and May 2006, the Hawaiian Forest Bird Surveys were carried out in East Maui. Point counts were conducted between 3000ft and 7000ft elevation on eight transects traversing the north-east slope of Haleakala Crater, and incorporating key native forest bird habitat. No Po’ouli were located; the last Po’ouli detection on the HFBS was in 1980 (subsequently conducted 1992, 1996, 2001). Since its discovery, all known sightings of Po’ouli have been made on the north-east slopes of Haleakala. Because of the difficulty accessing and intensively searching the area and because of the cryptic nature of the species, it is difficult to definitively determine that the Po’ouli is extinct. However, no birds additional to the known three (HR1, HR2 & HR3) have been located since 1998; HR2 died in captivity in 2004 and it is increasingly unlikely that HR1 and HR3 are still alive."
Given this new information, it now seems appropriate to tag this Critically Endangered species as Possibly Extinct.
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Post by another specialist on Mar 22, 2008 22:57:56 GMT
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Post by sburd on Mar 13, 2011 20:54:40 GMT
I noticed there were no threads on this bird? Maybe I didn't look close enough.
The Po'ouli went extinct in 2004 due to habitat loss, disease predators and decline in their food source. (native tree snails.)
Any other information?
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Post by Peter on Mar 13, 2011 21:05:24 GMT
Sburd, moved your post into the existing thread of this species. You will also find more information in here.
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Post by surroundx on Apr 6, 2014 3:43:29 GMT
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Post by Melanie on Dec 6, 2015 22:38:33 GMT
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Post by redpinnipedgamer on Jul 24, 2024 4:43:50 GMT
Video that includes some footage of the Po'ouli
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Post by Sebbe on Oct 24, 2024 6:52:44 GMT
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