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Post by another specialist on May 2, 2008 7:41:57 GMT
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Post by another specialist on May 2, 2008 7:42:44 GMT
Then there are the two endemic, recently extinct Cuban canids: Cubacyon transversidens Arredondo & Varona, 1974 and Indocyon caribensis Arredondo, 1981 [UPDATE: make sure you read the comments!!]. Cubacyon is poorly known and was described on the basis of a partial lower jaw (Arredondo & Varona 1974). Indocyon was first collected in 1956 but not named as a new species until 1981 (Arredondo 1981a): it was originally named Paracyon caribensis but Paracyon was used by Gray for the thylacine in 1827, so Arredondo (1981b) then coined the new generic name Indocyon. In contrast to Cubacyon, Indocyon is known from numerous specimens, but virtually all are lower jaw fragments. In fact we know very little about these canids: their jaw bones suggest that they were small, fox-sized forms (McKenna & Bell (1997) regarded both taxa as part of Canis), but their origins and extinction dates are mysterious. They're both missing from various works on the extinct mammal fauna of Cuba, and from papers that discuss recently extinct island endemic carnivorans (Alcover & McMinn 1994). Presumably these canids were contemporaneous with Cuba's fantastic fauna of giant rodents, diverse sloths, giant owls and huge, remarkable raptors. And what's that you say? Giant raptors? scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2007/12/cuban_canids_darwins_fox.php
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Post by extinct8 on May 2, 2008 13:56:01 GMT
Does anyone know when the two Caribbean dogs (Indocyon and Cubacyon) became extinct? Was it pre-1500 AD? Thanks!
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Post by another specialist on May 2, 2008 14:02:31 GMT
Does anyone know when the two Caribbean dogs (Indocyon and Cubacyon) became extinct? Was it pre-1500 AD? Thanks! This carnivorous avifauna inhabited the Antilles because of the absence of great carnivorous mammals that controlled the population of herbivorous mamals (rodents, monkeys, edentates). The Indian mute dog (Indocyon caribensis) arrived to the Antilles at the end of Pleistocene or even in the Holocene. There are also a large number of new, extinct species, belonging to other orders O. Arredondo is working on them, together with his son Carlos and Dr. W. Suarez, and hopes that this work will be finished in a near future. www2.nrm.se/ve/birds/sape/sapenews12.html.en
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2008 13:45:05 GMT
Cubacyon transversidens and Indocyon caribensis seem to be synonyms for Canis familiaris.
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Marjorie M. Condis; Osvaldo Jiménez; Fernando Balseiro: 'Mamiferos del Registro Fósil y Asociados a Sitios Arqueológicas de Cuba (Terciaria y Cuaternario)' (2007)
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Post by another specialist on Dec 7, 2008 19:33:58 GMT
Cubacyon transversidens and Indocyon caribensis seem to be synonyms for Canis familiaris. source: Marjorie M. Condis; Osvaldo Jiménez; Fernando Balseiro: 'Mamiferos del Registro Fósil y Asociados a Sitios Arqueológicas de Cuba (Terciaria y Cuaternario)' (2007) The "mute dog" of the Taíno of Hispaniola and perhaps other islands could deserve an article Taíno Dog. Some claimed it to be a raccoon, but the Taíno were pretty obviously depicting them as dogs. I don't know whether material evidence exists; it is extremely hard to come across any good sources, sources that don't just mention their existence. Dysmorodrepanis 09:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Cubacyon transversidens may be a junior synonym of the Taíno dog - or indeed the correct scientific name. I don't think enough is known about the Taíno animals to unequivocally state that they were indeed the same species as our dogs. Dysmorodrepanis 14:38, 19 August 2007 (UTC) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cryptozoology
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Post by surroundx on Apr 22, 2011 6:16:31 GMT
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Post by Sebbe on Oct 24, 2015 14:36:38 GMT
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