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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2005 14:54:07 GMT
Hi ! Described from bones from the United Arabian Eremites (or what ever the mane is ...) Should be or could be identically to the Bennu-Bird (Phoenix) of the old Egyptians. For the Bennu see here: www.egiptomania.com/mitologia/panteon/bennu01.jpgThis bird (Ardea bennuides is believed to have lived until about 1800 before Christi) Bye Alex |
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Post by cryptodude100 on May 24, 2006 20:51:44 GMT
Does anyone know the size of this giant heron?
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Post by sebastian on Jul 7, 2006 21:40:00 GMT
:-/The only information that I found, was: "Thus an analysis of bird bones from the Umm al-Nar collective tombs has provided information on birds no longer found in the Emirates. One of the species identified, the Giant Heron, Ardea bennuides, is extinct, and was described from and is only known from the Umm Al Nar excavations. " www.adias-uae.com/protect.html |
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Post by dysmorodrepanis on Jul 7, 2006 22:18:33 GMT
Source is apparently:
Hoch, E. (1995). Animal bones from the Umm an-Nar Settlement. The Island of Umm an-Nar. Vol. II: Third Millenium Settlement. K. Frifelt. Aarhus, Jutland Archaeological Society Publications. 26 (2): 249-256.
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Post by sordes on Mar 18, 2007 13:50:55 GMT
This week I visited our local archeological museum, where there is a small special exhibition about the death-book of the writer Ani and a original-sized reconstruction of his tomb. There were a lot of interesting benu pictures, including benu-human-chimeras. One very interesting showed two benus, from which only one had the two elongated feathers on the head. I´m not very familiar with herons, but could it be that this was a trait of sexual dimorphism?
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Post by Carlos on Mar 18, 2007 16:55:04 GMT
Most likely the differences you noticed could be related to age differences, as the elongated feathers in the head are much less obvious in Ardea species in juvenile plumages.
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Post by sordes on Aug 20, 2007 17:04:11 GMT
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Post by another specialist on Jan 17, 2008 10:01:12 GMT
Bennu The Bennu bird serves as the Egyptian correspondence to the phoenix, and is said to be the soul of the Sun-God Ra. Some of the titles of the Bennu bird were “He Who Came Into Being by Himself,” “Ascending One,” and “Lord of Jubilees.” The name is related to the verb “weben,” meaning “to rise brilliantly,” or “to shine.” The Bennu bird was the mythological phoenix of Egypt. It was associated with the rising of the Nile, resurrection, and the sun. Because the Bennu represented creation and renewal, it was connected with the Egyptian calendar. Indeed, the Temple of the Bennu was well known for its time-keeping devices. According to ancient Egyptian myth, the Bennu had created itself from a fire that was burned on a holy tree in one of the sacred precincts of the temple of Ra. Other versions say that the Bennu bird burst forth from the heart of Osiris. The Bennu was supposed to have rested on a sacred pillar that was known as the benben-stone. The Egyptian priests showed this pillar to visitors, who considered it the most holy place on earth. The Bennu was pictured as a grey, purple, blue, or white heron with a long beak and a two-feathered crest. Occasionally the Bennu was depicted as a yellow wagtail, or as an eagle with feathers of red and gold. In rare instances the Bennu was pictured as a man with the head of a heron, wearing a white or blue mummy dress under a transparent long coat. The Bennu was considered the “soul” of the god Atum, Ra, or Osiris. The Book of the Dead says, “I am the Bennu bird, the Heart-Soul of Ra, the Guide of the Gods to the Tuat.”. A large species of heron, nowadays extinct, occurred on the Arabian Peninsula in comparatively recent times; it may have been the ultimate inspiration for the Bennu. Reflecting this, the species was described[citation needed] as Bennu Heron (Ardea bennuides). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennu_Heron |
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Post by another specialist on Jan 17, 2008 10:20:01 GMT
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Post by another specialist on Jan 17, 2008 10:20:31 GMT
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Post by another specialist on Mar 27, 2008 13:50:24 GMT
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Post by another specialist on Mar 27, 2008 13:53:02 GMT
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Post by another specialist on Mar 27, 2008 13:55:04 GMT
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Post by another specialist on May 22, 2008 15:52:32 GMT
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Post by Peter on Dec 27, 2014 19:08:15 GMT
Turvey, S.T. (2009). In the shadow of the megafauna: prehistoric mammal and bird extinctions across the Holocene. In: Turvey, S.T. (editor) (2009). Holocene extinctions. Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK.
Tyrberg, T. (2009). Holocene avian extinctions. In: Turvey, S.T. (editor) (2009). Holocene extinctions. Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK.
Turvey, S.T. (editor) (2009). Holocene extinctions. Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK.
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Post by Peter on Dec 27, 2014 19:48:16 GMT
When was this species formerly described? In 1977 or in 1979? Both can be found...confusing. Hoch, E. (1977). Reflections on prehistoric life at Umman-Nar (Trucial Oman) based on faunal remains from the Third Millenium BC. South Asian Archaeology 1977, 589–638. Hoch, E. (1979). Reflections on prehistoric life at Umm an-Nar (Trucial Oman) based on faunal remains from the third millennium BC. In: M. Taddei (ed.), South Asian Archaeology. Papers from the Fourth International Conference of the association of South Asian archaeologists in Western Europe, held in the Istututo Universitario Orientale, Naples. Seminario di Studi Asiatici Series Minor 6, p.589-638. Acta zoologica Cracoviensia, Band 38 ( books.google.de/books?id=dckRAQAAIAAJ&q=Ardea+bennuides&dq=Ardea+bennuides&hl=de&sa=X&ei=7dcLU86UI4aU7QbFlYG4Bw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAw). |
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Post by Melanie on Dec 27, 2014 20:31:26 GMT
When was this species formerly described? In 1977 or in 1979? Both can be found...confusing. It's more confusing as you think. Ella Hoch intented to publish a comprehenisive description in 1979 but that was never happened (see references in the Ella Hoch paper: "A new heron species, Ardea bennuides n. sp. from the Persian Gulf region" ). All that what published was a photo of a bone fragment of Ardea bennuides and a historical discussion about the Egyptian god Benu. The article was published in 1979. Thanks to the photo the name Ardea bennuides is no nomen nudum. |
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Post by surroundx on Jan 25, 2015 5:14:50 GMT
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Post by Melanie on Jan 25, 2015 15:17:00 GMT
Surely further finds have been made since the early 1980's??? Ella Hoch had to stop her excavations due to the political problems in that region. So there were no new finds since the early 1980's |
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Post by surroundx on Jan 25, 2015 16:26:45 GMT
Surely further finds have been made since the early 1980's??? Ella Hoch had to stop her excavations due to the political problems in that region. So there were no new finds since the early 1980's Even that being the case the island is very close to other islands and the mainland. It's unusual that it hasn't been found elsewhere. |
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