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Post by Peter on Jan 16, 2010 16:34:59 GMT
The "Ice Age Tiger" is not a Panthera tigris balica. For one thing, it is too long, measuring 92" as seen. It is actually longer when the pelage is pulled to its full length. Secondly, there is no known DNA tyype of a Bali Tiger and this specimen matches the Sumatran profile per O'Briens test. I legally own a full Bali Tiger specimen consisting of a brain tanned skin with the head and skull attached. The testicular sac is also attached to the skin. Yes, I would love to see a photo of your skin too!  |
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Post by peej on Mar 19, 2011 22:39:37 GMT
There is also an image of a bali tiger skin on the tigerforum.de website it says it is from the museum of leiden but that is the only info it gives, does any one have any more info, like where on bali it was taken, what year and by whom?
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Post by Peter on Mar 20, 2011 11:22:16 GMT
The Leiden skin (and info) can be seen at www.naturalis.nl/300pearls/: "The specimen in the National Museum of Natural History comprises a skin, skull and some bones. It was obtained in 1977. The skin had been used as a rug, so it is fairly worn and faded. The animal, a young adult, was probably killed at the end of 1933 by a Dutch medical doctor living on Java. It is one of the eight Bali Tigers - eight skulls and five skins - preserved in scientific collections." |
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Post by peej on Mar 20, 2011 15:12:24 GMT
Thanx for the info
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Post by surroundx on Nov 24, 2013 7:10:31 GMT
Yamaguchi, Nobuyuki et al. (2013). Locating Specimens of Extinct Tiger (Panthera tigris) Subspecies: Javan Tiger (P. T. sondaica), Balinese Tiger (P. T. balica), and Caspian Tiger (P. T. virgata), Including Previously Unpublished Specimens. Mammal Study 38(3): 187-198. [ Abstract] |
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Post by Sebbe on Nov 24, 2013 18:53:45 GMT
Yamaguchi, Nobuyuki et al. (2013). Locating Specimens of Extinct Tiger (Panthera tigris) Subspecies: Javan Tiger (P. T. sondaica), Balinese Tiger (P. T. balica), and Caspian Tiger (P. T. virgata), Including Previously Unpublished Specimens. Mammal Study 38(3): 187-198. [ Abstract] I have a pdf copy of this paper, so if anyone is interested send me PM. |
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Post by Melanie on Nov 24, 2013 19:55:18 GMT
I have a pdf copy of this paper. Me too. There is a photograph of just another dead tiger. Seems that this subspecies was never photographed alive. |
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Post by surroundx on Mar 13, 2015 11:08:11 GMT
Xue, Hao-Ran et al. (2015). Genetic Ancestry of the Extinct Javan and Bali Tigers. Journal of Heredity. doi: 10.1093/jhered/esv002 [ Abstract] |
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Post by surroundx on Oct 1, 2016 13:50:57 GMT
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Post by surroundx on Oct 2, 2016 2:08:17 GMT
It seems that both skins belonged to Javan tigers: "Carbon dating confirmed that the origin of one of the skins was dated near the late 1970s. Sadly the sub-species of tiger that these skins came from became extinct in the 1980s and a prosecution expert said that this particular tiger may well have been one of the last of its kind." Source: www.cps.gov.uk/news/latest_news/woman_sentenced_for_illegal_trade_of_tiger_skins/ |
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Post by surroundx on Apr 21, 2017 14:27:40 GMT
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Post by surroundx on Jul 22, 2020 11:55:18 GMT
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Post by athenry04 on Jul 6, 2024 3:06:33 GMT
This is huge, I wonder where the skins ended up, as even though the dates are truly remarkable, this may if proven to be from Bali, the 10th known example of a skin and remains.
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Post by athenry04 on Jul 6, 2024 3:12:32 GMT
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