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Post by Melly on Feb 26, 2005 18:53:18 GMT
The most interesting question for me at the moment is why does the Schomburgk's Deer have an uncertain status? I've always thought that this is valid species which only occur in Thailand.
The Schomburgk's Deer was discovered in 1862 and became extinct ca. 1932
I have the knowledge of one photograph of a living Schomburgk's Deer (from the Berlin Zoo) which can be find in the following books:
Ivan T. Sanderson "Living Mammals of the World"
Ernerst P. Walker "Walker's Encyclopedia of Mammals"
Ronald M. Nowak "Walker's Mammals of the World".
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Post by Peter on Feb 26, 2005 21:53:30 GMT
ITIS, the Integrated Taxonomic Information System, sees the Taxonomic Status of the Schomburgk's Deer as valid! As do the IUCN, etc.
Where did you find that this species has an uncertain status? I know it is mentioned in the book Gap in Nature, but I've found it nowhere else.
By the way, thanks for post the titles of those books.
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Post by Melly on Feb 26, 2005 22:06:22 GMT
I have the information from "The Gap in Nature" too.
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Post by aspenparkland on Feb 27, 2005 5:46:24 GMT
Hi, A set of antler's was found in Feb. 1991 that suggests that Schomburgk's Deer survives in Loas. Unfortunately, my photocopy doesn't have an issue date, but it's from Wildlife Conservation p. 22. Wildlife Conservation is online at: wildlifeconservation.org/ttyl, Kevin |
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Post by sebbe67 on Mar 1, 2005 9:07:11 GMT
In 1991 a pair of antlers found in Laos appearing to be those from Schomburgk's Deer. It was said to had come from a animal shot only 1 year. The antlers was discovered for sale in a very remote part of Laos. That shows that this species probably still lives here in small numbers and that it not yet can be assumed to be extinct.
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Post by Peter on Mar 1, 2005 10:42:29 GMT
A while ago, I've recieved an e-mail with some comments on this species. I think it was from MacPhee or from Flemming. They reported that the Schomburgk's Deer was been rediscovered. Something about a fresh specimen on a Laos market. I will search for it again. I don't know what they exactly said.
I still list this species as extinct on my website, as long as the IUCN red list does it, and until I see proof of its rediscovery.
I quote:
The wild population of Schomburgk’s deer is thought to have died out around 1932, with the last captive individual being killed in 1938. MacPhee and Flemming (1999) consider this species to be still extant. The matter has been referred to the relevant Specialist Group for a decision.
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Post by Peter on Mar 1, 2005 10:44:05 GMT
I think their report is in the following article:
MacPhee, R.D.E. and Flemming, C. 1999. Requiem Æternam. The last five hundred years of mammalian species extinctions. In: R.D.E. MacPhee (ed.) Extinctions in Near Time, pp.333-371. Kluwer Academic/Plenum Publishers, New York.
Does anyone have this?
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Post by Peter on Mar 1, 2005 19:30:30 GMT
I also found out that where I study, they have the book: Ronald M. Nowak "Walker's Mammals of the World". The 4th and the 6th edition. Cannot wait until I'm able to see the image of this animal.
.......and they have Wildlife Conservation! ;D
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Post by sebbe67 on Mar 1, 2005 20:01:16 GMT
the photograph in the book Walker's Mammals of the World are on a adult male
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Post by Peter on Mar 10, 2005 13:57:12 GMT
Here's that photo:  |
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Post by Peter on Mar 10, 2005 14:01:21 GMT
And: Schoering, W.B., 1995. Swamp Deer resurfaces. Wildlife Conservation, vol 98, December, p22. I've scanned it:  |
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Post by Melly on Mar 10, 2005 15:27:08 GMT
Thanx for posting this beautiful photo. By the way. It isn't the same photograph than in "Living Mammals of the World". I hope that i will receive my new scanner soon. Than i can post that photo. |
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Post by majorian on Mar 11, 2005 15:11:34 GMT
I read that this photo were taken in 1911 in Berlin's zoo. This is probably only known photo of this species.
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Post by Melly on Mar 11, 2005 15:21:41 GMT
Well i think there are several views of the same deer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2005 17:13:07 GMT
Hi there !
Did You know that the last Schomburgk's Deer lived in a temple in Thailand and was killed by a drunken man.
I dont know if this is absolytly true, but it may be.
Bye Alex
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Post by majorian on Mar 11, 2005 17:56:18 GMT
Hi Noisi! I read about it in my polish book. The last deer was killed in 1932 near Sayok and Que Noi river. I don't know is is true, too.  |
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Post by Melly on Mar 11, 2005 17:58:42 GMT
The last Schomburgk's Deer was shoot near Sayok by a policemenan in September 1932.
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Post by Melly on Mar 12, 2005 10:40:04 GMT
Here is the other photograph:  Source: Ivan T. Sanderson "Living Mammals of the World" |
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Post by Peter on Mar 15, 2005 16:32:55 GMT
Great to see another photo!
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Post by aspenparkland on Mar 15, 2005 22:11:23 GMT
Hi,
I remember seeing a photo of one laying down. It was in a book on Deer species of the world. Unfortunately, I don't remember the title (it was 15+ years ago) and it was on the shelf at the library. But I'll keep looking.
ttyl,
Kevin
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